[SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute

Deepanshu deepanshu at huawei.com
Sat Apr 28 01:34:48 UTC 2007


I got it....

But, can you give some reason to support your statement.

When a proxy gets a request with route header and its a statefull proxy then it will insert a record_route header in the outgoing request. Due to that all the subsequent request will go through P1, which imply that P1 is in the media path.

on the other hand...

When a proxy gets a request with route header and its a *stateless* proxy then it will *not* insert a record_route header in the outgoing request. Due to that all the subsequent request will *not* go through P1, which imply that P1 is *not* in the media path.

So, i cannot understand or support your statemt like "What i was saying is, P1 will not come into the media path". Why P1 will not come in media path? it depends on the procedures what proxy adopts.

hope i'm not missunderstanding you again

Deepanshu Gautam
R&D Engineer
Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd.
Nanjing Institute, No 91 BaiXia Rd. 
Nanjing, Jiangsu, P. R. China 210001
Mobile: +86-13585147627
Email: depanshu at huawei.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: gurudatt balaji 
  To: Deepanshu 
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute


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  yes, i think so............... P1 is a default proxy for user A to forward his request.

  request will contain the route header, now if p1 wants to be in media path then it will record route
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  According to ur above statment,

  What i was saying is, P1 will not come into the media path"

   
  On 4/26/07, Deepanshu <deepanshu at huawei.com> wrote: 
    Sorry dear,

    i think i did not get you completely, are you trying to say that P1 cannot be in media path? (i hope not)
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: gurudatt balaji 
      To: Deepanshu 
      Cc: William Prusty ; discussion at sipforum.org 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:24 PM
      Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute

       
      Hi Deepanshu,

      I donot think P1 comes in the media path, also record_route header entries for subsequent requests (not media) within a dialog.

      Can u confirm.

      Reg
      Balaji

       
      On 4/25/07, Deepanshu <deepanshu at huawei.com > wrote: 
        yes, i think so............... P1 is a default proxy for user A to forward his request.

        request will contain the route header, now if p1 wants to be in media path then it will record route
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: William Prusty 
          To: Deepanshu 
          Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:12 PM
          Subject: RE: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute

           
          If P1 must be configured at   A ;s client , then every time the request generated by A will contains the route header field containing the address of P1 





          Am I right?? Plz clarify




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          From: Deepanshu [mailto: deepanshu at huawei.com] 
          Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:34 PM 
          To: William Prusty
          Cc: discussion at sipforum.org


          Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute






          P1 MUST be configured in A's client

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: William Prusty 

            To: Deepanshu ; Srinivas . 

            Cc: discussion at sipforum.org 

            Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:52 AM 

            Subject: RE: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute 



            Thank u deepansu. 



            If p1 is not configured in A "s client , then whether at that time A required help of DNS to find the address of p1.???? 






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            From: discussion-bounces at sipforum.org [mailto:discussion-bounces at sipforum.org] On Behalf Of Deepanshu
            Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:23 AM
            To: Srinivas .
            Cc: discussion at sipforum.org
            Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route& recordroute 



            My understanding about this is:



            P1 is the proxy server in A's domain, so the address of P1 should be configured in the A's client.

            when P1 receive the request it will do the DNS query to find the location of the next hop in the target domain (as per the line mentioned by Srinivas) and then send the request to P2 which will inturn forward the request to B 





            Deepanshu Gautam 
            R&D Engineer
            Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd.
            Nanjing Institute, No 91 BaiXia Rd. 
            Nanjing, Jiangsu, P. R. China 210001 
            Mobile: +86-13585147627
            Email: depanshu at huawei.com

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: Srinivas . 

              To: William Prusty ; mwilliam prusty ; discussion at sipforum.org 

              Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 6:44 PM 

              Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route & recordroute 



              William Refer RFC 3261 Section.10.



              If a user wants to initiate a

              session with another user, SIP must discover the current host(s) at

              which the destination user is reachable. This discovery process is

              frequently accomplished by SIP network elements such as proxy servers

              and redirect servers which are responsible for receiving a request,

              determining where to send it based on knowledge of the location of

              the user, and then sending it there.










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              From: William Prusty 
              Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:36 PM
              To: Srinivas .; mwilliam prusty; discussion at sipforum.org
              Subject: RE: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route & recordroute



              Thank a lot srinivas. Plz make me clarify one thing more 



                              If A doesn't know IP address of p1 then how the invite request will reached at B 




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              From: discussion-bounces at sipforum.org [mailto:discussion-bounces at sipforum.org] On Behalf Of Srinivas .
              Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:05 AM
              To: mwilliam prusty; discussion at sipforum.org
              Subject: Re: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route & recordroute



              William my comments inline




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              From: discussion-bounces at sipforum.org [mailto:discussion-bounces at sipforum.org] On Behalf Of mwilliam prusty
              Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:20 AM
              To: discussion at sipforum.org
              Subject: [SIPForum-discussion] very imp question about route & record route




              can any body tell that 

              suppose the call setup is lke  A  p1    p2    B

              here A is user agent client. B is user agent  server. p1 & p2 are proxy. 
              1.let A has generated an  INVITE request to B . in which case the invite request generated by A will conatin ROUTE header field.????
              [Srinivas]  Generally , proxy P1 gets IP address of B from location server also if there are any proxies in between. 

                             Proxy P1 (generate INVITE) fills route and send  INVITE. 

              User A can fill route set only if it knows the proxies between user A and user B. 


              2. let p1 has rcved the INVITE request containg ROUTE heder field.
              is it mandatory that the invite from point p1 to p2 will conatin RECORD ROUTE heder field.????? if yes why if not why??? 

              [Srinivas] In some cases, it may be useful for proxies in the SIP signaling path to see all the messages pass between the endpoints for the session. In that case it will add RECORD ROUTE.  If it don't want to be in the path, it will not add the RECORD ROUTE. 


              plz anser




                   



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