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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Good afternoon SipNOC 2024 Attendees,<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I know I have been keeping you in “<b><u>dramatic suspense</u></b>” for a number of months since I last checked in on the <b><u>infamous draft Eighth Report Order in CG Docket No. 17-59</u></b> that was on the FCC’s Sep. 26, 2024, open meeting agenda but then suddenly got pulled and was put on circulation. It seemed to be “lost in circulation space”, but then on Feb. 6, 2025, a revised, shortened version of the draft order appeared and was proposed to be on the FCC’s Feb. 27, 2025, open FCC meeting agenda (text messaging provisions in the earlier version of the draft order were removed). I was unsure if the order ever see the light of day, but it did.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All that said, by now and as you may have already heard, the <b><u>FCC finally adopted its Eighth Report and Order in CG Docket No. 17-59</u></b> (<a href="https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-25-15A1.pdf">FCC 25-15</a>) on call blocking during its Feb. 27, 2025, Open Meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Below is summary of the FCC’s key decisions and holdings it adopted in this Eighth Report and Order: <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Expands the requirement to block calls based on a reasonable Do Not Originate (“DNO”) list to include </span></b><b><u><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All</span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> U.S.-based Providers “in the Call Path</span></u></b><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>.” Below are key FCC holdings concerning the DNO list itself:<o:p></o:p></span></b></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The FCC does not “mandate the use of a specific list, but allowed providers to use any DNO list so long as the list is reasonable.” The FCC also “decline[d] to designate the Industry Traceback Group’s list as presumptively reasonable.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The FCC also found that “the burden of requiring <b><u>all</u></b> providers, including smaller providers, to use an expansive DNO list is unnecessary at this time,” especially “when all other providers in the call path must block” and that “some providers will use or already use these more expansive lists, and a single call will often pass through several networks on its path to the recipient.” Nevertheless, the FCC “recommend[s] that providers, when technically feasible, use a more comprehensive list to safeguard even more consumers.” <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The DNO “list may include only invalid, unallocated, and unused numbers, as well as numbers for which the subscriber has requested blocking.” <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“[T]o be considered reasonable, [the DNO] list may include only the above-referenced categories of numbers and need not include all possible covered numbers. This is particularly true for unused numbers, which may be difficult for some providers to identify in some cases.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The FCC may, however, “deem unreasonable a [DNO] list so limited in scope that it leaves out obvious numbers that could be included with little effort.” <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“Providers must constantly update DNO lists, especially if they include unused numbers that could go into use at any time, and there is not currently a standardized way to ensure that these updates would happen in real time for all providers.” <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The FCC also maintains its “previous approach, which allows providers to exercise discretion as to what numbers they include on their [DNO] lists, so long as the list includes, <b><u>at a minimum</u></b>: 1) ‘any inbound-only government numbers where the government entity has requested the number be included;’ and 2) ‘private inbound only numbers that have been used in imposter scams, when a request is made by the private entity assigned such a number.’ Providers may, of course, include inbound-only numbers that have not been used in imposter scams if they are capable of doing so.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This new DNO blocking requirement that applies to all providers in the call path is effective 90 days after publication of a notice of Office of Management and Budget (OMB) approval in the Federal Register.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Establishes SIP code 603+ as the exclusive code to notify callers when calls on IP networks are blocked based on reasonable analytics to better correct erroneous blocking. <o:p></o:p></span></b></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This requirement only applies when providers block calls based on analytics; the FCC does “not require providers to provide immediate notification when blocking based on a DNO list, pursuant to Commission notification if not based on analytics, or at the request of a customer without the use of analytics.” <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All providers are “required to perform necessary software upgrades to ensure the codes we require for such notification are appropriately mapped.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Providers must ensure that “calls that transit over Time Division Multiplexing (“TDM”) and IP networks return an appropriate code when calls are blocked based on an analytics program, and the correct ISUP code for this purpose remains 21. The FCC directs “voice service providers to cease using the standard version of SIP code 603, or SIP codes 607 or 608, for this purpose.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>FCC requires “providers to implement SIP code 603+ no later than 12 months from publication of this Order in the Federal Register.” The FCC explained that it directs “providers to cease using SIP codes 603, 607, and 608 when calls are blocked using analytics once they have implemented 603+ and in no instance later than 12 months from publication of this Order in the Federal Register.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“Providers may continue to use SIP code 603 where otherwise appropriate, but not for analytics-based blocking except when an intermediate or terminating providers receive ISUP code 21 and cannot reasonably determine whether SIP code 603 or 603+ is appropriate. SIP code 607 may be used for its intended purpose: to indicate that a call was blocked at the subscriber’s direction without the use of analytics.”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Apart from adopting the above rules, the FCC expressly “<b>decline[d] to require the display of caller name information when a provider chooses to display an indication that caller ID has been authenticated</b>.” The FCC explained that “[a]lthough we do not adopt such a mandate, we urge providers to continue to develop next-generation tools, such as Rich Call Data (“RCD”) and branded calling solutions, to ensure that consumers receive this information and welcome any updates the industry has on its progress.” The FCC noted that it “may consider a mandate in the future, particularly if the timely deployment of such valuable tools does not occur without Commission intervention.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I had a good feeling this order would eventually make it over the finish line and ultimately have its day, but was unsure when. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If you have any questions on the above summary, please let me know. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:6.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=623 style='width:467.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=233 valign=top style='width:175.1pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Philip J. 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Priceless. At it least was not tomorrow at 4:59 PM <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Richard Shockey<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Shockey Consulting LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Chairman of the Board SIP Forum<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.shockey.us"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.shockey.us</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.sipforum.org">www.sipforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>richard<at>shockey.us<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Skype-Linkedin-Facebook –Twitter rshockey101<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>PSTN +1 703-593-2683<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><<a href="mailto:pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com">pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 31, 2024 at 5:39 PM<br><b>To: </b>"'Burger, Eric'" <<a href="mailto:ewburger@vt.edu">ewburger@vt.edu</a>>, Richard Shockey <<a href="mailto:richard@shockey.us">richard@shockey.us</a>>, <<a href="mailto:sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org">sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org</a>>, 'Tina Donaldson' <<a href="mailto:tina@netnumber.com">tina@netnumber.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Sipnoc24-attendees] Draft/proposed Eighth Report and Order was Deleted from Sep. 26, 2024 Open FCC Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Good afternoon everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I hope all is well. I thought I would follow up on my email below and share some Halloween goodies with you. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In particular, while the FCC still has the draft <a href="https://www.fcc.gov/items-on-circulation">Eighth Report and Order</a> on circulation (i.e., it has yet to be adopted), the Chairwoman announced that the FCC’s Nov. 21, 2024 open meeting will include an order that addresses <b><u>third-party authentication</u></b>, which has been a heated topic. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Here’s the FCC’s <a href="https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-407144A1.pdf">draft order</a> and summary of it is pasted below (with emphases added): <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>What the Report and Order Would Do: <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Define “third-party authentication” to provide a clear scope of the third-party authentication practices authorized and prohibited by the new rules. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Authorize providers with a STIR/SHAKEN implementation obligation to engage third parties</span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> to perform the technological act of digitally “signing” calls consistent with the requirements of the STIR/SHAKEN technical standards, subject to two conditions: <o:p></o:p></span></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>(1) The <u>provider with the implementation obligation</u> itself makes the critical “attestation level” decisions for authenticating caller ID information associated with its calls; and <o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>(2) All calls are signed using the certificate of the provider with the implementation obligation—<u>not the certificate of a third party.</u> <o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Explicitly require all providers with an implementation obligation to obtain a Service Provider Code (SPC) token from the Policy Administrator and present that token to a STIR/SHAKEN Certificate Authority to obtain a digital certificate. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Require <u>any provider certifying to partial or complete</u> STIR/SHAKEN implementation in the Robocall Mitigation Database to have obtained an SPC token and digital certificate and <u>sign all its calls with that certificate, either themselves or when working with a third party to perform the technological act of signing c</u>alls. <o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Adopt recordkeeping requirements for third-party authentication arrangements to monitor compliance with and enforce the Commission’s rules.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Interested stakeholders looking to have written or oral ex partes with the FCC on the draft order need to do so by Nov. 14, 2024.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best regards and Happy Halloween,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=623 style='width:467.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=233 valign=top style='width:175.1pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:gray'>Philip J. 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The real question is has the text changed substantively parts removed or beefed up IP maybe?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Richard Shockey</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Shockey Consulting LLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Chairman of the Board SIP Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.shockey.us/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.shockey.us</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.sipforum.org">www.sipforum.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>richard<at>shockey.us</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Skype-Linkedin-Facebook –Twitter rshockey101</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>PSTN +1 703-593-2683</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><<a href="mailto:pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com">pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 10:41 AM<br><b>To: </b>Richard Shockey <<a href="mailto:richard@shockey.us">richard@shockey.us</a>>, 'Tina Donaldson' <<a href="mailto:tina@netnumber.com">tina@netnumber.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org">sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: Draft/proposed Eighth Report and Order was Deleted from Sep. 26, 2024 Open FCC Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>FYI – Quick update on the above, I was told the Chairwoman’s Office has stated publicly that the item will move to Circulation. I have yet to see it on the FCC’s “Items on Circulation” list though. See <a href="https://www.fcc.gov/items-on-circulation">https://www.fcc.gov/items-on-circulation</a>. Perhaps we will see it appear in the next day or so. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=623 style='width:467.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=233 valign=top style='width:175.1pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:gray'>Philip J. 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If you have received this communication in error, kindly notify us immediately by return e-mail and destroy this communication and any attachments.</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com">pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com</a> <<a href="mailto:pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com">pmacres@kleinlawpllc.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Richard Shockey' <<a href="mailto:richard@shockey.us">richard@shockey.us</a>>; 'Tina Donaldson' <<a href="mailto:tina@netnumber.com">tina@netnumber.com</a>>; 'sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org' <<a href="mailto:sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org">sipnoc24-attendees@sipforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Draft/proposed Eighth Report and Order was Deleted from Sep. 26, 2024 Open FCC Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Good afternoon everyone, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This afternoon the FCC <a href="https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-405764A1.pdf">deleted</a> the <a href="https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-405219A1.pdf">draft/proposed Eighth Report and Order</a> (which was the subject of a fair amount of discussion during SIPNOC 2024 last week) from the FCC’s Open Meeting on Sep. 26. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>At this point, it is unclear if this item was adopted on circulation or if the FCC hit the pause button given the various ex partes filed last week. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I suspect we should know one way or another in short order. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=623 style='width:467.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=233 valign=top style='width:175.1pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:gray'>Philip J. 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