[SIPForum-discussion] What is the difference between 408 and 504 responses

seshagiri seshgirik at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 03:36:35 UTC 2012


Sorry i posted in existing thread , re-posting my querty , Pl give your
comments:

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:17 AM, seshagiri <seshgirik at gmail.com> wrote:

>    What is the difference between 408 and 504 responses ?
>
>
>    In the below negative scenarios our sbc forward the recieived requests
> to UAS.
>    UAS will not respond for few requests( It will not send 200 for INFO or
> UPDATE or OPTIONS)
>    In some scenarios UAS will not send 200 OK after 180.
>    But our sbc sends responses like 408 or 504 to UAC.
>    I could not able to understand when it sends 408 and when it sends 504 ?
>
>
>
>
> Messages  Retrans   Timeout   Unexpected-Msg
>       INVITE ---------->         0         0         0
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          180 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          183 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          200 <----------  E-RTD1 0         0         0         0
>          ACK ---------->         0         0
>        Pause [   1000ms]         0                             0
>         INFO ---------->         0         0
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          408 <----------  E-RTD1 0         0         0         0
>        Pause [    20.0s]         0                             0
>          BYE ---------->         0         0         0
>          200 <----------         0         0         0         0
>
>
>                                   Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg
>       INVITE ---------->         0         0         0
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          180 <----------         0         0         0         0
>
>          504 <----------  E-RTD1 0         0         0         0
>          ACK ---------->         0         0
>
>
>
>                                  Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg
>       INVITE ---------->         0         0         0
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          180 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          183 <----------         0         0         0         0
>
>        PRACK ---------->         0         0
>          200 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          504 <----------         0         0         0         0
>
>          ACK ---------->         0         0
>
>
>                                   Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg
>       INVITE ---------->         1         0         0
>          100 <----------         1         0         0         0
>          180 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          183 <----------         1         0         0         0
>
>        PRACK ---------->         1         0
>          200 <----------         1         0         0         0
>       UPDATE ---------->         1         0
>          504 <----------         0         0         0         0
>
>          ACK ---------->         0         0
> ------- Waiting for active calls to end. Press [q] again to force exit.
> -------
>
>
>
>                                   Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg
>       INVITE ---------->         1         0         0
>          100 <----------         1         0         0         0
>          180 <----------         1         0         0         0
>          183 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          200 <----------  E-RTD1 1         0         0         0
>          ACK ---------->         1         0
>        Pause [   1000ms]         1                             0
>         INFO ---------->         1         0
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0
>          408 <----------  E-RTD1 1         0         0         0
>        Pause [    20.0s]         1                             0
>          BYE ---------->         1         0         0
>          200 <----------         1         0         0         0
>
> ------------------------------ Test Terminated
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                  Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg^M
>       INVITE ---------->         1         0         0                  ^M
>          100 <----------         1         0         0         0        ^M
>          180 <----------         1         0         0         0        ^M
>          183 <----------         0         0         0         0        ^M
>          200 <----------  E-RTD1 1         0         0         0        ^M
>          ACK ---------->         1         0                            ^M
>        Pause [   3000ms]         1                             0        ^M
>        REFER ---------->         1         5         0                  ^M
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0        ^M
>          408 <----------         1         0         0         0        ^M
>          BYE ---------->         1         0         0                  ^M
>          200 <----------         1         0         0         0        ^M
> ^M
> ------------------------------ Test Terminated ---------------------
>
>
>                                  Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg^M
>   ----------> INVITE             1         0         0         0        ^M
> ^M
>   <---------- 180                1         0                            ^M
>   <---------- 200                1         0                            ^M
>   ----------> ACK         E-RTD1 1         0         0         0        ^M
> ^M
>   [   3000ms] Pause              1                             0        ^M
>   <---------- OPTIONS            1         7         0                  ^M
>   ----------> 408                1         0         0         0        ^M
> ^M
>   ----------> BYE                1         0         0         0        ^M
>   <---------- 200                1         0                            ^M
> ------------------------------ Test Terminated
> --------------------------------^M
> ^M
>
>
>                                  Messages  Retrans   Timeout
> Unexpected-Msg^M
>       NOTIFY ---------->         1         0                            ^M
>          100 <----------         0         0         0         0        ^M
>          408 <----------  E-RTD1 1         0         0         0        ^M
> ------------------------------ Test Terminated ----------------------------
>
>
> Regards
> Sesh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Aniella Juverdeanu <
> Aniella.Juverdeanu at telus.com> wrote:
>
>> Allow header just lets know the remote party that INFO is supported as a
>> method but if the two SIP end points do not support out of band DTMF tones
>> in INFO message, then should use in-band  as RFC 2833 RTP packets.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Phillip Lewis [mailto:phillipl at joinvip.com]
>> *Sent:* June 18, 2012 6:40 PM
>> *To:* Aniella Juverdeanu
>> *Cc:* virajith; discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [SIPForum-discussion] dtmf issue on the sip trunk !!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What about the Allow field in the SIP Header. INFO may have been
>> included, could SIP INFO have been resolved.?****
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Aniella Juverdeanu <
>> Aniella.Juverdeanu at telus.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> To me it looks negotiated ok with CODEC G711and RFC 2833/4733 for DTMF
>> events 0-15. ****
>>
>> I didn’t see until now 77 and 84 used but if not accepted by the other
>> end it means not supported – but the call should continue with standard
>> events 0-15.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> More details you may find in RFC 2833/4733.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Aniella ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* discussion-bounces at sipforum.org [mailto:
>> discussion-bounces at sipforum.org] *On Behalf Of *virajith
>> *Sent:* June 12, 2012 9:47 PM
>> *To:* discussion
>> *Subject:* [SIPForum-discussion] dtmf issue on the sip trunk !!****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>
>> Hello Team,
>>
>> I have an issue where dtmf is not getting negotiated . We are doing a
>> delayed offer to pbx but the pbx ..
>>
>> What the dtmf methods advertised in this  200 ok sdp sent by the pbx ?
>>
>> v=0
>> o=IPC 425146 425146 IN IP4 XXXXX
>> s=IPC
>> c=IN IP4 10.97.232.239
>> t=0 0
>> m=audio 16442 RTP/AVP 0 8 18 101
>> a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
>> a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
>> a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000
>> a=fmtp:18 annexb=yes
>> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
>> a=fmtp:101 0-15,77,84
>> a=ptime:20
>> a=sendrecv
>>
>>
>> in the ACK that we(our end) send is this...
>>
>>
>> v=0
>> o=CiscoSystemsCCM-SIP 2000 1 IN IP4 10.97.202.101
>> s=SIP Call
>> c=IN IP4 10.97.202.124
>> t=0 0
>> m=audio 19504 RTP/AVP 0 101
>> a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
>> a=ptime:20
>> a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
>> a=fmtp:101 0-15
>>
>>
>> What the dtmf  methods advertised and negotiated?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vir
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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