[SIPForum-discussion] Purpose of SIP Forum mailing lists? (Was Re: flow of RTP in SIPP)

Thu Jan 3 04:08:32 UTC 2008

Hi All,

My suggestion is to create a Google Group because it allows for relevant 
search results and archiving, all for free and easy to setup (5 mins). 
In my experience with other development work, most people post questions 
that have been answered before.

Happy New Year!

Martin

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Eric Burger wrote:
> This is an excellent question and great kick-off for a discussion.  That, of
> course, is a great use of the discussion list.
>
> Dan is correct - we do not have AI software or an army of moderators to
> classify messages.  I know I personally classify based on Subject, which is
> why I missed the original post.  Thanks to Dan for changing the subject.
>
> We have been discussing for over a year what we should do with this list.
> Very little of the traffic is directly SIP related.  For a while, I thought
> we should rename the list the "Asterisk Newbies List."  Others proposed
> naming the list the "People who do not have the ability to RTFM List."  That
> may have been made worse by the number of "Please Unsubscribe Me From This
> List" messages we received, even though EVERY message sent by the list
> includes instructions for how to remove yourself from the list.
>
> Some thoughts include:
> 1. Leave the list as is.  Deep questions get addressed on the IETF list.
> Implementers' questions get addressed on the Columbia University list.
> Having this list as the "New Newbie" list keeps irrelevant traffic off of
> those lists, which is a definite service to the SIP community.
>
> 2. If we leave the list as is, how does the SIP Forum communicate to its
> Participant Members?
>
> Right now, we have close to 3,000 Participant Members.  The signal/noise
> ratio on the discussion list is about 1:150 *after* spam removal.
>
> 3. Should we have something like "sipforum-announce", which would only have
> postings from SIP Forum management?
>
> 4. Should we have something like a moderated discussion list, where the
> moderators take on the responsibility for directing newbies to the right
> list of FAQ?
>
> 5. Other suggestions?
>
>
> On 12/24/07 10:14 AM, "Dan York" <dyork at voxeo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Shuky,
>>
>> You ask an excellent question and one that, in my opinion, can probably only
>> be addressed by Eric Burger (SIP Forum Chair) or Marc Robins (SIP Forum
>> Executive Director).  The SIP Forum operates three mailing lists:
>>
>>   http://www.sipforum.org/content/view/41/165/
>>
>> and this one, "discussion at sipforum.com", is defined on that page as: "a
>> general-purpose mailing list for questions about SIP".
>>
>> With that definition, pretty much anything can be sent out here. I think the
>> question you raise really is:  what *should* be sent out on this list? Should
>> this mailing list be broken out into separate lists for separate topic areas? 
>> (Given the software currently used by the SIP Forum, I don't see any other way
>> to separate out the content in the manner you mention.)
>>
>> Given that here in North America many people have taken time off between now
>> and New Year's Day, I don't expect you'll see a whole lot of discussion on
>> this topic until the new year... but I agree it is a good question.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dan
>>
>> P.S. Regarding discussion of RFCs and Internet-Drafts, I would suggest that
>> some of that (particularly the "new features") is also being discussed in the
>> IETF mailing lists at: http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html     Certainly,
>> though, there is a need for a venue for discussion of *implementation* of
>> RFCs, which is a valuable service that the SIP Forum lists can provide.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:11 AM, Shuky Persky wrote:
>>
>>     
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> hi all,
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> does SIP-Forum classify members emails by subject ?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> for example: 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>         (1) a question like the one below may be classified as
>>> assistance-class
>>>  
>>>         (2) RFCs discussion class
>>>  
>>>         (3) SIP new features discussion  class (not yet RFC'ed)
>>>  
>>>         (4) other  classes ...
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> so every member can select what (s)he likes rather than being flood by emails
>>> like th eone below
>>>  
>>> which  (w/ all the respect) may not be of interest for part/many/most of the
>>> members
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> again - w/ all the respect to the one that asked the question. pls do not be
>>> offended.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> tnx, shuky
>>>  
>>>         
>>>  
>>>       
>>>>   
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:   discussion-bounces at sipforum.org
>>>> [mailto:discussion-bounces at sipforum.org]On   Behalf Of mwilliam prusty
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:17   AM
>>>> To: discussion at sipforum.org
>>>> Subject:   [SIPForum-discussion] flow of RTP in SIPP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> HI 
>>>>
>>>>   I am able to make a basic SIP call between 2 pc   using sipp . How to 
>>>> flow RTP in between them ???plz help me .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> william 
>>>>
>>>>
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