[SIPForum-discussion] Purpose of SIP Forum mailing lists? (Was Re: flow of RTP in SIPP)

Fri Dec 28 12:47:42 UTC 2007

> Having this list as the "New Newbie" list keeps irrelevant traffic off of
> those lists, which is a definite service to the SIP community.

That is a great service to SIP community. Just for the sake of that I
suggest keep this list as it is and perhaps create a companion list for
announcements and/or business related discussion.

--
Raj

On Dec 27, 2007 5:22 PM, Eric Burger <eburger at bea.com> wrote:

> This is an excellent question and great kick-off for a discussion.  That,
> of
> course, is a great use of the discussion list.
>
> Dan is correct - we do not have AI software or an army of moderators to
> classify messages.  I know I personally classify based on Subject, which
> is
> why I missed the original post.  Thanks to Dan for changing the subject.
>
> We have been discussing for over a year what we should do with this list.
> Very little of the traffic is directly SIP related.  For a while, I
> thought
> we should rename the list the "Asterisk Newbies List."  Others proposed
> naming the list the "People who do not have the ability to RTFM List."
>  That
> may have been made worse by the number of "Please Unsubscribe Me From This
> List" messages we received, even though EVERY message sent by the list
> includes instructions for how to remove yourself from the list.
>
> Some thoughts include:
> 1. Leave the list as is.  Deep questions get addressed on the IETF list.
> Implementers' questions get addressed on the Columbia University list.
> Having this list as the "New Newbie" list keeps irrelevant traffic off of
> those lists, which is a definite service to the SIP community.
>
> 2. If we leave the list as is, how does the SIP Forum communicate to its
> Participant Members?
>
> Right now, we have close to 3,000 Participant Members.  The signal/noise
> ratio on the discussion list is about 1:150 *after* spam removal.
>
> 3. Should we have something like "sipforum-announce", which would only
> have
> postings from SIP Forum management?
>
> 4. Should we have something like a moderated discussion list, where the
> moderators take on the responsibility for directing newbies to the right
> list of FAQ?
>
> 5. Other suggestions?
>
>
> On 12/24/07 10:14 AM, "Dan York" <dyork at voxeo.com> wrote:
>
> > Shuky,
> >
> > You ask an excellent question and one that, in my opinion, can probably
> only
> > be addressed by Eric Burger (SIP Forum Chair) or Marc Robins (SIP Forum
> > Executive Director). The SIP Forum operates three mailing lists:
> >
> > http://www.sipforum.org/content/view/41/165/
> >
> > and this one, "discussion at sipforum.com", is defined on that page as: "a
> > general-purpose mailing list for questions about SIP".
> >
> > Withthat definition, pretty much anything can be sent out here.I think
> the
> > question you raise really is: what *should* be sent out on this list?
> Should
> > this mailing list be broken out into separate lists for separate topic
> areas?
> > (Given the software currently used by the SIP Forum, I don't see any
> other way
> > to separate out the content in the manner you mention.)
> >
> > Given that here in North America many people have taken time off between
> now
> > and New Year's Day, I don't expect you'll see a whole lot of discussion
> on
> > this topic until the new year... but I agree it is a good question.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dan
> >
> > P.S. Regarding discussion of RFCs and Internet-Drafts, I would suggest
> that
> > some of that (particularly the "new features") is also being discussed
> in the
> > IETF mailing lists at:http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html Certainly,
> > though, there is a need for a venue for discussion of *implementation*
> of
> > RFCs, which is a valuable service that the SIP Forum lists can provide.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:11 AM, Shuky Persky wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hi all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> does SIP-Forum classify members emails by subject ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> for example:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (1)a question like the one below may be classified as
> >> assistance-class
> >>
> >> (2) RFCs discussion class
> >>
> >> (3) SIP new features discussion class (not yet RFC'ed)
> >>
> >> (4) other classes ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> so every member can select what (s)he likes rather than being flood by
> emails
> >> like th eone below
> >>
> >> which (w/ all the respect) may notbe of interest for part/many/most of
> the
> >> members
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> again - w/ all the respect to the one that asked the question. pls do
> not be
> >> offended.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> tnx, shuky
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:   discussion-bounces at sipforum.org
> >>> [mailto:discussion-bounces at sipforum.org]On   Behalf Of mwilliam prusty
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:17   AM
> >>> To: discussion at sipforum.org
> >>> Subject:   [SIPForum-discussion] flow of RTP in SIPP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> HI
> >>>
> >>> I am able to make a basic SIP call between 2 pc   using sipp . How to
> >>> flow RTP in between them ???plz help me .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>>
> >>> william
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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